From Ray Brandes:
"Ron joined the Ideals at a Point Loma apartment party, and after a few days deliberation asked Carl and me to start a new band with him: the Hedgehogs. I would sing, while Ron would play guitar; Carl, bass; and Paul, drums.
"During the days we’d practice for hours on end at 2378 Presidio Drive, while at nights we’d drive around in Carl’s family Suburban, wander the streets of Mission Hills or hang out at Julio’s Mexican Restaurant — all the while clad in black leather vests, skinny ties and Beatle boots. Within two weeks we had mastered the Beatles’ entire Hamburg Star Club song list, and were well on our way to becoming an authentic beat group. Ron was veritable encyclopedia of Beatles trivia, and could play and sing any Beatles song Carl or I would suggest."